Relationships in modern life are often treated as an afterthought compared to other personal or professional pursuits, leading to neglect.

“We see them as kind of an afterthought to everything else in many regards. So, the amount of effort I put into my businesses and to the podcast and to every little detail, the creativity, the thought, the brainstorming, all of that relationships, we kind of all just think they're just they just happ”

True chemistry is not based on initial attraction but rather on how individuals can exist together as separate beings while staying connected.

“Chemistry is how do we inhabit the same space knowing that we're two separate human beings and how do we stay connected even with the space between us?”