Taking the risk to follow a passion rather than sticking to a safe career path was the most important pivot in his life.

“If it's moved to Bali for a year to see what happens. If that's your what if go do that. I have a friend that did that says it was her best years of her life. For me it was what if I don't chase this dream. What if I'm a doctor in in 20 years from now and I'm I'm still asking myself”

A career pivot is necessary when one becomes frustrated with existing professional limitations and needs to understand the broader business.

“And I had to get really frustrated and angry in my existing career to hit the wall to want to take on a new aspect or a new it's an entirely different career.”