The tendency of political groups to punish ideological deviation creates an environment where people fear being canceled for having independent conversations.

“no one from the right has said Steve you cannot platform that person right it's never happened so and that that again you're not help you're you're basically going to punish me if I don't um say think and have conversations that are in line with your Doctrine”

Extremist positions on both the left and the right are characterized by an intolerance for nuance and a performance to gain validation within their respective echo chambers.

“essentially I I was speaking about what we're talking about now an invitation into that middle ground where most people are inviting people to acknowledge nuance and context to really realize that black people for example we don't all think the same”