One can achieve success by being intrinsically motivated and trusting one's own intuition rather than relying on external validation.

“I just kept thinking, okay, I'll just I'll put stuff out. Let me just like make an episode. And making an episode created a community. And then created some of the biggest guests I've ever had. And and having all of this success very quickly, my nervous system didn't know what to do with it.”

Taking operations in-house allows for better control and avoids the pitfalls of working with unreliable external vendors.

“As soon as you and I took it back in house, everything starts to go up.”