The Rooney rule is a useful tool because it helps check unconscious bias in hiring processes for coaching positions.

“I think the Rooney rule what it's supposed to do is it's supposed to to check implicit by unconscious bias or unconscious bias right which are you might not think a black guy's gonna be a good coach but we're gonna put him in front of you anyway and then he could potentially win you over”

The Rooney rule is not performing effectively because it has not increased the number of black head coaches in the NFL.

“there were three black head coaches when I was implemented in 99 or whatever the [ __ ] he ER was and there are still three black head coaches right now”