He believes the secrecy surrounding UFOs is likely driven by a desire to cover up fraud, misappropriation of funds, and a lack of proper oversight in government programs.

“I think that's the that's the I think that is probably the reason why you have these calls for amnesty because if you if you're talking about amnesty like amnesty for what you guys do something, what' you do? Misappropriation of funds, lying to Congress.”