He believes the Trump administration officials' actions on Signal were a mistake but does not necessarily agree that they should be fired.

“I would say one other thing on this though which is that I don't necessarily agree with you that he should be fired”

He asserts that the security failure lies in the users and their choice to use an unapproved, insecure communication platform rather than a secure facility.

“The issue is not the mistake the issue is the fact that this mistake was possible and the reason why it was possible is because they were not following protocol and and the protocol here being you should be doing these conversations on on in an approved area like a ski not on Signal”