The subject's behavior of staging 45-minute fake phone calls is illogical and baffling.

“which one was like the most shocking to you the fact that he's on the phone and there's no one on the other line talking to himself talking to himself 45 minutes every day”

Dr. Phil McGraw believes Erick's lying is a tool used to create a fantasy and escape the reality of his mundane life.

“You create a fantasy, a false self-esteem to escape the reality of who you are.”

Melissa believes Chris is a pathological liar who lies about everything on a daily basis.

“Chris is a pathological liar if I could guess how many times Chris had lied to me over 5 years you would laugh I there's no number literally insanely every day all day Chris will lie about the most ridiculous things from if he even brushed his teeth today and what he ate for lunch”

Chris admits that he has a chronic problem with lying.

“well Chris admits that he has a problem with lying since he was just a kid but he says if it wasn't for Melissa's hulk-like temperor he would probably own up to his lies a lot faster”

Erick admits that he uses lies to create a fantasy and gain advantages but denies that his intention is to inflict pain.

“I would say all of them um except for inflict pain. I don't I don't ever go into a situation hoping to inflict pain on somebody.”

Matthew Cox believes that pathological liars often embellish their stories for clout because they lack the detail to sustain a truthful narrative.

“they want the clout to compete with the stories of everybody else my opinion um I don't get it I don't get it”