Historical narrative is a vital tool for communicating with a general audience and should not be avoided by historians.

“And I never understood why you couldn't have a narrative structure that that in fact privileged people who weren't powerful and wealthy.”

Historians should engage with the public, and it is crucial for academics to distill complex information in a smart, accessible way.

“The fact of the matter is you have to distill things in a really smart way to engage with anybody but particularly to engage with folks who don't spend all their time wandering around with a bunch of other historians with the conversation right in front of their faces.”