The speaker maintains that IVF is intrinsically immoral because it commoditizes human life and involves the destruction or indefinite freezing of human embryos.

“The bad news is that part of the plan involves promoting IVF, which listeners to the show will know I and many other people consider intrinsically immoral for a whole host of reasons, including the fact that it causes the destruction and indefinite freezing of countless human beings.”

The speaker argues that IVF is inconsistent with the pro-life position because it involves discarding or freezing embryos, which are human beings deserving of dignity.

“It's a very inconsistent philosophy. If you say that a person is a person no matter how small, that all people, no matter their stage of development, deserve to be treated with dignity and respect, we shouldn't murder them. But that also means that we shouldn't discard them”