Travis describes tight ends as selfless players who are willing to block larger defenders or run routes against smaller ones as needed.

“We're the guy that will we'll block the guys that are bigger than us. We'll run routes on against the guys that are smaller than us. And whatever position they put us in, we're expected to to get our done, get our job done, as everyone is on the field.”

Jason suggests that he could have been an effective tight end in the NFL given his physical frame.

“I could have played tight end. No doubt. That's what I'm saying. And I see the frame right now is a 265 frame for sure.”