The current managerial paradigm has resulted in a state that intervenes in all aspects of life, and the scope of government power needs to be limited.

“it's that kind of paradigm where it's the sort of overarching um i don't think like big government because it sounds cliche but the scope of the state is in everything now and this i think we see reaching its full the of full blossoming in the covid crisis where literally there is nothing outside of”