In this episode, forensic psychologist Dr. John Matthias, alongside his wife Lauren Matthias, examines the case of Marcia Norman and her alleged perpetrator Jeffrey Zizz's background, criminal history, behaviors, and the warning signs investigators say were present long before Marcia's murder. Understanding who Jeffrey Zizz is—and how someone allegedly capable of such violence was able to gain the trust of vulnerable people—is essential to understanding this case. This episode originally premiered on May 18, 2025, but as the case against Jeffrey Zizz moves closer to trial, it feels more important than ever to revisit. Marcia Norman deserved to grow old surrounded by her family, grandchildren, friends, and the life she built. Instead, prosecutors allege she was targeted by a man she trusted. As questions continue about justice, accountability, and what comes next, we believe Marcia's story deserves to remain in the public eye. Sponsors: Q30: For a FREE Q-Collar sleeve with your Q-Collar purchase, head to ⁠https://Q30.com/HIDDEN⁠ and use code HIDDEN. ASPCA Pet Insurance: Explore coverage at ⁠https://www.aspcapetinsurance.com/HIDDEN⁠ Become a Hidden gem: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBp03toXz-WZ6gSt7YtSdEg/join Find exclusive episodes on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/hiddentruecrime Lauren Matthias was a television reporter for a decade. She and her husband, Dr. John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, started Hidden True Crime in 2020 with their Season, 'Beyond the Veil,' a psychological deep dive into the doomsday murders of Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow. What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a forensic psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling. Thank you for your support through sponsorships, subscribing, listening, and becoming a Patreon member at https://www.patreon.com/hiddentruecrime Become a channel member and gem: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBp03toXz-WZ6gSt7YtSdEg/join Join for channel emojis: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBp03toXz-WZ6gSt7YtSdEg/join We're a true crime news channel working to ensure that the public gets the most factual information on the latest crimes. This video is a news piece in the public's interest. This video was created with the intent of educating the public. Before Nancy Guthrie, There Was Marcia Norman | A Psychological Deep Dive Nancy Guthrie Viewers Need to Hear Marcia Norman’s Story | A Psychological Deep Dive marcia norman,marcia norman washington,jeffrey zizz,jeffrey zizz interrogation,hidden true crime,psychologist reacts,nancy guthrie psychologist,nancy guthrie,nancy guthrie update today,marcia norman update,marcia norman case,jeffrey zizz upate,true crime,true crime podcast,hidden true crime lauren matthias,lauren matthias,dr john matthias,crime stories,criminal psychology,forensic psychology,true crime recaps,true crime stories,true crime psychology