Lilia Tarawa—granddaughter of Gloriavale founder Neville Cooper—shares her perspective on the new Paramount+ documentary Devotion, which offers unprecedented access inside the isolated New Zealand religious community. While she appreciates the rare footage and the opportunity to hear from current members, Lilia argues that the documentary fails to present the full reality of Gloriavale by omitting critical historical context, survivor experiences, and the systemic ab*se that has shaped the community for decades. Drawing from her own upbringing inside the group, she explains how communal living, isolation, rigid gender roles, and absolute obedience created an environment where manipulation and control became normalized. The conversation then examines Gloriavale's culture of secrecy, forgiveness, and institutional protection of ab*se. Lilia challenges the documentary's balanced approach, arguing that presenting current leaders' perspectives without fully addressing their roles in enabling abuse risks minimizing the harm suffered by survivors. Watch our initial interviews with Lilia: https://youtu.be/ZYLd7JxLZKU?si=qdnTrxQcSCYsdk4F Live with Lilia: https://www.youtube.com/live/24ajRC6sL74?si=XiGfNWEOOk59nw60 Follow and support Lilia! IG: https://www.instagram.com/liliatarawa/ YT: https://www.youtube.com/@LiliaTarawa Book: “Daughter of Gloriavale: My Life in a Religious Cult” https://amzn.to/3MUD7zd For inquires, email: media@LiliaTarawa.com Podcast - Brandbreaker with Lilia Tarawa: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/brandbreaker-with-lilia-tarawa/id1859810768 Download Cash App Today: https://click.cash.app/ui6m/c4ltycot #CashAppPod Code: CASHAPP10 Cash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App’s bank partner(s). Prepaid debit cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC. Cash App Visa® Debit Flex Cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC, and The Bancorp Bank, N.A., pursuant to a license from Visa U.S.A. Inc. See terms and conditions for the Sutton prepaid card, Sutton debit flex card, and Bancorp debit flex card. Cash App Green features, Savings, Direct deposit, Round ups, Overdraft coverage and Discounts provided by Cash App, a Block, Inc. brand. Visit cash.app/legal/podcast for full disclosures. Chapter Marks 00:00 — Intro: Lilia Explains Why Gloriavale Keeps Growing 00:01:43 — She Shares Her First Impressions of the New Gloriavale Documentary 00:03:48 — Lilia's reaction to watching Devotion 00:06:04 — She Describes What It Was Like Growing Up Inside Gloriavale 00:10:46 — She Explains What the Documentary Failed to Show 00:17:55 — She Challenges Claims That Gloriavale Has Reformed 00:23:00 — She Reveals How Secrecy Protected Predators for Years 00:24:42 — Lilia's family's decision to leave 00:29:00 — She Explains How Purity Culture Enabled Ab*se 00:35:30 — Lilia Explains Why Ab*se Was Never Reported to Authorities 00:38:48 — Things left out of the documentary 00:42:30 — She Breaks Down How ChiIdren Were Conditioned to Obey 00:48:10 — She Reveals How Persecution Narratives Strengthened Control 00:54:00 — She Questions Why Governments Struggle to Intervene 00:51:31 — Thoughts on how to change things 01:00:00 — Lilia Explains Why Survivors Must Tell Their Stories 01:03:05 — She Describes How Leaders Claimed to Speak for God 01:10:45 — She Shares What Daily Life Was Really Like in Gloriavale 01:17:55 — She Encourages Survivors to Reclaim Their Voices and Heal 01:16:00 — Linda, listen 01:19:30 — Final Call for Awareness and Compassion Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! https://www.youtube.com/@CultstoConsciousnessClips Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! https://cults-to-consciousness-shop.fourthwall.com/en-usd Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness https://www.instagram.com/cultstoconsciousness Host Instagram @sheliseann https://www.instagram.com/sheliseann/ Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_ https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.rosales_ TikTok @cults.to.consciousness https://www.tiktok.com/@cults.to.consciousness Twitter @cultstocon https://twitter.com/cultstocon **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.**