Watch every episodes ad-free & uncensored on Patreon: https://patreon.com/dannyjones Jesse Michels is an investor & journalist known for his YouTube show "American Alchemy," where he explores UFOs, physics, philosophy and the nature of reality. His YouTube channel features interviews with notable figures such as Jacques Vallée, Garry Nolan, Hal Puthoff, Eric Weinstein & Dave Grusch. In addition to his online endeavors, Jesse manages a venture portfolio on behalf of Thiel Capital. SPONSORS https://manscaped.com - Use code DANNYJONES to get 20% off plus free shipping. https://evening.ver.so/danny - Use code DANNY for 15% off your first order. https://hims.com/danny - Start your FREE online visit today. https://whiterabbitenergy.com/?ref=DJP - Use code DJP for 20% off GUEST LINKS Jesse's YouTube Channel: @JesseMichels https://whop.com/jessemichels https://www.instagram.com/jessemichelsofficial FOLLOW DANNY JONES https://www.instagram.com/dannyjones https://twitter.com/jonesdanny LISTEN ON Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/4VTLG0HiIZaCjH9gE6NFPq Apple - https://itunes.apple.com/podcast/id1441238966 OUTLINE 00:00 - The 'GHOST' agent of the UFO world 07:12 - Thomas Townsend Brown 18:08 - Investing for Peter Thiel 23:30 - Paul Bennewitz story 27:32 - UFOs & nukes 35:26 - Why did CIA hire Bob Lazar? 45:14 - Jacques Vallee's obsession with angels & demons 48:23 - Alex Jones' secret genius 54:25 - Varginha & Roswell UFO crashes 01:01:31 - Why do UFOs crash? 01:06:05 - Whitley Strieber & experiments on children 01:16:43 - Rogue government with alien tech 01:24:37 - Tic Tacs causing nuclear communications outage 01:32:04 - How would society react to alien disclosure? 01:39:33 - Collapse of intellectualism 01:49:39 - Skeptics 01:55:21 - Jake Barber 02:13:09 - Risk of summoning aliens 02:24:55 - Mike Masters' alien evolution theory 02:35:46 - String theory is a limited hangout 02:54:25 - Counter-Intel & the UFO community 03:03:31 - #1 scariest alien & UFO theory 03:06:08 - Jesse's UFO experience 03:18:57 - Censorship of alien content 03:23:30 - USAID funding UFO disinformation 03:26:29 - How the CIA made Google