Brought to you by LinkedIn Jobs recruitment platform with 1B+ users https://linkedin.com/tim AG1 all-in-one nutritional supplement https://drinkag1.com/tim and Pique premium tea crystals https://www.piquelife.com/tim Susan Cain (@susancain) is the author of Quiet Journal: Discover Your Secret Strengths and Unleash Your Inner Power, Quiet Power: The Secret Strengths of Introverts, and Quiet: The Power of Introverts in A World That Can’t Stop Talking, the latter of which spent eight years on the New York Times Best Sellers list and has been translated into 40 languages. Susan’s first record-smashing TED Talk has been viewed more than 40 million times and was named by Bill Gates as one of his all-time favorite talks (and if you like that one, you should check out her most recent TED Talk with violinist Min Kym). LinkedIn named her the top sixth influencer in the world, just behind Richard Branson and Melinda Gates. Susan partners with Malcolm Gladwell, Adam Grant, and Dan Pink to curate the Next Big Idea Club. They donate all of their proceeds to children’s literacy programs. Her new book is Bittersweet: How Sorrow and Longing Make Us Whole. Show notes: https://tim.blog/2022/03/30/susan-cain-bittersweet/ Please enjoy! SUBSCRIBE: http://bit.ly/1dSzTkW LINK TO ALL SHOW TRANSCRIPTS: https://tim.blog/2018/09/20/all-transcripts-from-the-tim-ferriss-show/ About Tim Ferriss: Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded 500 million downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running. Connect with Tim Ferriss: Sign up for "5-Bullet Friday" (Tim's free weekly email newsletter): https://go.tim.blog/5-bullet-friday-yt/ Visit the Tim Ferriss PODCAST: https://tim.blog/podcast/ Visit the Tim Ferriss BLOG: https://tim.blog/ Follow Tim Ferriss on TWITTER: https://twitter.com/tferriss/ Follow Tim Ferriss on INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/timferriss/ Like Tim Ferriss on FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/TimFerriss/ Start [00:00] A book titled Bittersweet should always begin with dark chocolate. [01:32] The genesis of the thesis for Bittersweet [02:29] Susan's favorite bittersweet music [07:49] Leonard Cohen and Rumi bridge a divide. [10:17] Why does minor key music often invoke melancholy? [12:59] Melancholy as different from depression [17:09] An aversion to depression but an attraction to melancholy [19:46] Sufism, bittersweetness, and the search for a language of longing [26:37] Creativity as a byproduct of bittersweetness [32:20] Thoughts on the song “Hinach Yafah” by Idan Raichel [35:58] How is mono no aware expressed in your part of the world? [41:13] Attuning to bittersweetness [46:58] Susan shares an early email from her husband [49:38] Longing and the pandemic [52:37] An empathy exercise: adding captions to the people around you [56:03] Can grief be inherited? Here’s what the science says. [58:09] Learning to heal others helps us heal ourselves. [1:07:32] The joy of Susan's writing process [1:11:14] Favorite quotations from Art Is the Highest Form of Hope [1:13:03] A point Susan feels some readers of Bittersweet might misinterpret [1:14:49] A brief bask in the warm wisdom of Jana Levin and C.S. Lewis [1:18:08] Why I seek out ways to turn pain into beauty [1:20:46] Advice to her 30-year-old-self, moral obligation, coping with life’s crossroads, and other parting thoughts [1:37:07]