Support The Glenn Show at https://glennloury.substack.com 0:00 How Matt first encountered Christopher Hitchens 6:07 Matt’s new book, How Hitchens Can Save the Left: Rediscovering Fearless Liberalism in an Age of Counter-Enlightenment 8:00 Why Matt thinks Cornel West’s Vietnam-Afghanistan analogy is flawed 14:21 What’s worth preserving in the left-liberal tradition? 21:38 Matt: Identity politics is a “toxin” 27:20 Was affirmative action ever necessary? 35:29 Matt: I wish the left would rediscover Hitchens’s universalism 45:04 Hitchens’s “fearless liberalism” Glenn Loury and Matt Johnson (How Hitchens Can Save the Left). Recorded July 6, 2023.

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