Dr. Maya Shankar is a cognitive scientist, founder of the Obama White House Behavioral Science Team, and a featured expert in the Netflix documentary "Limitless with Chris Hemsworth." We discuss navigating involuntary change, the illusion of control, identity loss, and practical tools to see change as revelation. READ MORE👉🏼 http://bit.ly/richroll961 ✌🏼🌱 – Rich This Episode Is Brought To You By… Go Brewing: Use code Rich Roll for 15% OFF👉🏼https://bit.ly/gobrewing2025 Momentous: High-caliber human performance products for sleep, focus, longevity, and more. For listeners of the show, Momentous is offering up to 35% off your first order👉🏼https://bit.ly/LiveMomentous2025 Rivian: Electric vehicles that keep the world adventurous forever👉🏼https://www.rivian.com WHOOP: The all-new WHOOP 5.0 is here! Get your first month FREE👉🏼https://www.join.whoop.com/Roll Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors👉🏼https://www.richroll.com/sponsors 00:00:00 Intro 00:00:38 Affective Forecasting & Fear of Change 00:05:13 Illusion of Control & Uncertainty 00:07:35 Change and Identity Threat 00:11:56 Attachment to Identity & Community 00:15:09 Achievement, Control, and Self-Worth 00:19:29 The Need for Practical Tools 00:22:33 Sponsor Break 00:25:29 Maya’s Early Life & Identity Crisis 00:28:47 Current Projects & Media Appearances 00:29:37 Universal Lessons from Diverse Stories 00:33:36 The Brain’s Response to Change 00:36:15 Change as Revelation & The Power of Curiosity 00:39:52 Acceptance, Denial, and Agency 00:50:50 Strategies for Embracing Change 00:56:31 Sponsor Break 00:59:12 Challenging Core Beliefs & Narrative Identity 01:01:36 Technology, Belief Systems, and Identity 01:02:37 Strategies for Challenging Beliefs 01:08:10 Curiosity as a Tool for Change 01:14:02 Moral Elevation & Role Models 01:20:25 Distinguishing Moral Elevation from Motivation 01:23:14 Transferring Skills & Fiction as Identity Laboratory 01:29:35 Psychological Distance & Detachment 01:34:12 Rumination, Metacognition, and Coping 01:39:50 Awe, Perspective, and the Cosmic View 01:44:18 Meaning-Making & Locus of Control 01:52:30 Blueprint for Responding to Sudden Change 01:53:05 The Promise and Gifts of Change 01:57:24 Case Study: Tara’s Transformation 02:02:24 Conclusion: The Universal Nature of Change LISTEN / SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/rrpitunes Spotify: http://bit.ly/rrpspotify Google: http://bit.ly/rrpgooglepods Meal Planner: http://meals.richroll.com Voicing Change Book: http://richroll.com/vc Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/RichRollPodcastClips Newsletter: http://bit.ly/rollcallemail CONNECT WITH RICH ✩ Website - http://richroll.com​ ✩ Rich Roll Podcast - https://richroll.com/all-episodes/ ✩ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/richroll/ ✩ Twitter - https://twitter.com/richroll ✩ Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/richrollfans ✩ Strava - https://www.strava.com/athletes/14443?oq=rich ✩ Memoir: Finding Ultra - https://www.richroll.com/shop/books/finding-ultra/ ✩ Meals - http://meals.richroll.com​ ✩ Cook - The Plantpower Way - https://www.richroll.com/shop/books/the-plantpower-way-signed/ ✩ Italian! - The Plantpower Way: Italia - https://www.richroll.com/shop/books/the-plantpower-way-italia-signed/ ✩ Support - https://www.patreon.com/richroll Thanks To The Team: Jason Camiolo, Dan Drake, Morgan McRae, Blake Curtis, Desmond Loh * * * * * NEW TO RICH? Hi I'm Rich Roll. I'm a vegan ultra-endurance athlete, author, podcaster, public speaker & wellness evangelist. But mainly I'm a dad of four. If you want to know more, visit my website or check out these two the NY Times articles: http://bit.ly/otillonyt http://bit.ly/vegansglam I LOVE MAIL! SEND IT HERE: 2630 Conejo Spectrum St. Thousand Oaks, CA 91320 #richroll #richrollpodcast