Joscha Bach is a German artificial intelligence researcher and cognitive scientist who works on on cognitive architectures, mental representation, emotion, social modeling, and multi-agent systems. We got connected over the hard problem of consciousness - namely, why do people seem to think it’s so hard? During our conversation we deal with the foundational questions of the technological future being built in Silicon Valley, the fever dream of machine intelligence, and try to understand why people seem to think that there’s even such a thing as the hard problem of consciousness in the first place. Support the scientific revolution by joining our Patreon: https://bit.ly/3lcAasB Tell us what you think in the comments or on our Discord: https://discord.gg/MJzKT8CQub 00:00:00 Go! 00:04:09 Career Advice 00:11:31 Beauty, Grace, & Hotness 00:13:48 Putting on Airs 00:22:32 Patreon Ask 00:22:33 Winning for the sake of winning 00:29:35 Transformative experiences 00:36:25 Speciation event, or crap again? 00:42:17 Who is Joscha Bach 00:52:39 Physics & Causality 01:00:52 Physics vs Biology 01:12:16 Life vs Cells 01:20:14 Biosynthetic AGI 01:28:15 Creativity & Novelty 01:38:52 Wetware & Neuromorphic computing 01:50:46 The Limits of Hardware 02:05:07 The value of Agency 02:15:47 Layers of Society 02:35:03 Chimp Empire 02:52:31 Collapse 03:05:13 The Hard Problem 03:43:28 Computer Imagination 04:02:52 How reasoning works 04:14:28 Reward Functions 04:20:01 Consciousness dreams 04:25:35 The heart of the disagreement 04:30:15 Consensus #AGI #consciousness #machinelearning Check our short-films channel, @DemystifySci: https://www.youtube.com/c/DemystifyingScience AND our material science investigations of atomics, @MaterialAtomics https://www.youtube.com/@MaterialAtomics Join our mailing list https://bit.ly/3v3kz2S PODCAST INFO: Anastasia completed her PhD studying bioelectricity at Columbia University. When not talking to brilliant people or making movies, she spends her time painting, reading, and guiding backcountry excursions. Shilo also did his PhD at Columbia studying the elastic properties of molecular water. When he's not in the film studio, he's exploring sound in music. They are both freelance professors at various universities. - Blog: http://DemystifySci.com/blog - RSS: https://anchor.fm/s/2be66934/podcast/rss - Donate: https://bit.ly/3wkPqaD - Swag: https://bit.ly/2PXdC2y SOCIAL: - Discord: https://discord.gg/MJzKT8CQub - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/DemystifySci - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/DemystifySci/ - Twitter: https://twitter.com/DemystifySci MUSIC: -Shilo Delay: https://g.co/kgs/oty671