This was a brilliant dialogue about the shadow of righteousness in progressive circles, between the cultural commentator Ayishat Akanbi and the author of the Entangled Activist Anthea Lawson. It was part of Rebel Wisdom's event at the Wilderness Festival, one of the UK's top festivals of music, food, talks and experiences. This year Rebel Wisdom took over the main talks space, the Forum, for three hours, with a selection of talks with a series of special guests. We covered how the pandemic had acted as a catalyst to make many of our existing problems worse. To see the full three hour film of the event, become a Rebel Wisdom member for a minimum of $5 per month: https://www.patreon.com/rebelwisdom