Activism and the Divided Brain - A conversation between Anthea Lawson, author of The Entangled Activist and Dr Iain McGilchrist, about the implications of his thinking for our attempts to change the world. Anthea Lawson is a campaigner and author of The Entangled Activist: Learning to recognise the master’s tools, which draws on her own experience, critical analysis and interviews with leading activists to explore how activism is entangled in the problems it seeks to solve. She has campaigned to shut down tax havens, prevent banks from facilitating corruption and environmental devastation, and control the arms trade. At Global Witness, she launched a campaign that changed the rules on secret company ownership and resulted in new laws in dozens of countries. Prior to human rights work she was a reporter at The Times. This conversation took place on Thursday 19th June 2025. It addressed the challenges of working for change in a world shaped by left-hemisphere perceptions, and considered whether greater understanding of the right hemisphere’s take on reality can help us to approach the problems we face with more effectiveness. To find out more about Anthea Lawson visit https://www.anthealawson.uk To find out more about Iain McGilchrist visit https://channelmcgilchrist.com/home/