William Lane Craig responded to my video with Dr. Daniel Linford and Phil Halper on what Craig gets wrong about science and the beginning of the universe. Here, we respond in turn. Like the show? Help it grow! Consider becoming a patron (thanks!): https://www.patreon.com/majestyofreason If you wanna make a one-time donation or tip (thanks!): https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/josephcschmid OUTLINE 0:00 Introduction 1:42 Craig’s response 2:39 Thermodynamics and entropy 7:53 Philosophical case 9:03 Craig’s approach 12:38 Hartle-Hawking model 17:57 No viable beginningless models? 18:44 Craig and Sinclair’s argument 26:06 Singularity and BGV theorems 34:05 Beginningless models (again) 46:16 Mischaracterizing science 48:11 BGV Theorem (again) 51:01 Timeless physical things 1:08:03 Craig misunderstands Joe 1:12:33 Joe’s VICIOUS ad hominem ATTACK 1:14:33 Craig misuses Vilenkin’s quote 1:17:11 Misusing science 1:21:30 Concluding comments RESOURCES (1) The podcast to which we're responding (@ReasonableFaithOrg): https://www.reasonablefaith.org/media/reasonable-faith-podcast/does-william-lane-craig-misuse-science (2) Our previous response to Craig: https://youtu.be/7CiOudgSdeE?si=qBdm3IrulDrfKx61 (3) Dan and I respond to the scientific case and stage two: https://youtu.be/35tICdYtHsQ?si=oQ-LfJuWjSo6mWYb (4) Dan's dissertation, “Cosmic Skepticism and the Beginning of Physical Reality”: https://philarchive.org/archive/DAN_SA-15 (5) Phil’s book, “Battle of the Big Bang”: (a) https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/B/bo244963115.html (b) https://www.amazon.com/Battle-Big-Bang-Cosmic-Origins/dp/0226830470 (6) My Kalam playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxRhaLyXxXkZzH2YffI32ViTZ73Tu8jSR (7) My responses to the Grim Reaper Kalam: https://majestyofreason.wordpress.com/2024/05/28/responses-to-the-grim-reaper-kalam/ (8) Linford, “A modal condition for the beginning of the universe”: https://philarchive.org/rec/LINAMC-2 (9) Linford, “Neo-Lorentzian Relativity and the Beginning of the Universe”: https://philarchive.org/rec/LINNRA-3 (10) Linford, "Big Bounce or Double Bang? A Reply to Craig and Sinclair": http://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/17188/1/FORTHCOMING_Big_Bang_or_Double_Bounce_Erk_Sub.pdf (11) Linford, “The Kalam Cosmological Argument Meets the Mentaculus”: http://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/16833/1/Online_Final_BJPS_Kalam_Mentaculus_Submission.pdf (12) Halper, "The Kalam cosmological argument: Critiquing a recent defence": https://philarchive.org/rec/HALTKC (13) My Springer book with Dan: https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-031-19313-2 (14) My website: https://josephschmid.com