Bryan Kohberger and Lindsay Clancy are both asking a court to believe something about what was inside their heads, and that is where the similarity stops. This is the full conversation covering both cases. Tony Brueski is joined by psychotherapist Shavaun Scott, thirty-plus years in private practice, community mental health, crisis teams, and forensic programs. On Bryan Kohberger and the Idaho student murders: he said guilty four separate times in an Ada County courtroom, then a year later filed a petition to withdraw the plea and told the New York Times his actual innocence is his truth. The episode covers the specific wording, his claim that his lawyers advised him to lie, what twelve months alone did to his account of himself, and why he chose the days before a Netflix documentary about Madison Mogen, Kaylee Goncalves, Xana Kernodle, and Ethan Chapin to speak for the first time since sentencing. On Lindsay Clancy: she does not deny killing Cora, Dawson, and Callan. Her trial in Plymouth Superior Court is about criminal responsibility. The episode covers why a good afternoon fits a psychotic illness rather than ruling it out, the thirteen psychiatric prescriptions across four months reported by the Boston Globe, the state's argument that she manipulated her doctors looking for a quick and easy fix, and what a finding of not criminally responsible actually means in Massachusetts. Scott draws the distinction that most coverage flattens. One of these claims has diagnostic criteria, a treatment record, and roughly two dozen countries with a law written for it. The other has a man with a criminology doctorate calling his own conviction a work of fiction. Subscribe for full interviews on both cases. For help with postpartum mood disorders, contact Postpartum Support International at postpartum.net or call or text 800-944-4773. If you or someone you know is struggling, call or text 988. Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePod This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice. #LindsayClancy #BryanKohberger #HiddenKillers #ClancyTrial #IdahoStudentMurders #PostpartumPsychosis #TrueCrime #PlymouthSuperiorCourt #CriminalResponsibility #TrueCrimePodcast