Dr. Kelly Starrett is a physical therapist, New York Times bestselling author, and co-founder of The Ready State. We discuss the wellness culture that's become a kind of secularized religion, "session cost," why the brain chooses safety over performance, the power of play, and more. READ MORE👉🏼http://bit.ly/richroll998 ✌🏼🌱 – Rich This Episode Is Brought To You By… WHOOP: Join now and get one month free👉🏼https://www.join.whoop.com/Roll Rivian: Electric vehicles that keep the world adventurous forever👉🏼https://www.rivian.com Go Brewing: Use code Rich Roll for 15% OFF👉🏼https://bit.ly/gobrewing2025 Seed: Use code RICHROLL25 for 25% off your first month of DS-01®👉🏼https://bit.ly/seedxrrp2025 Freaks of Nature: Save 20% with code RICHROLL👉🏼https://bit.ly/FreaksofNatureRRP Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors👉🏼https://www.richroll.com/sponsors LISTEN / SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/rrpitunes Spotify: http://bit.ly/rrpspotify Google: http://bit.ly/rrpgooglepods Meal Planner: http://meals.richroll.com Voicing Change Book: http://richroll.com/vc Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/RichRollPodcastClips Newsletter: http://bit.ly/rollcallemail CHAPTERS 00:00:00 Intro 00:01:32 Wellness Industry Is Making Us Fragile 00:19:29 Robustness Over Optimization 00:23:37 AD BREAK 1 00:27:36 Starting Again & Athletic Psychology 00:31:15 Play, Joy & Rebuilding Performance 00:44:24 AD BREAK 2 00:46:54 Enhanced Games & Human Performance 00:52:27 Parenting Kids in Performance Culture 01:08:08 Wrap Up CONNECT WITH RICH ✩ Website - http://richroll.com​ ✩ Rich Roll Podcast - https://richroll.com/all-episodes/ ✩ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/richroll/ ✩ Twitter - https://twitter.com/richroll ✩ Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/richrollfans ✩ Strava - https://www.strava.com/athletes/14443?oq=rich ✩ Memoir: Finding Ultra - https://www.richroll.com/shop/books/finding-ultra/ ✩ Meals - http://meals.richroll.com​ ✩ Cook - The Plantpower Way - https://www.richroll.com/shop/books/the-plantpower-way-signed/ ✩ Italian! - The Plantpower Way: Italia - https://www.richroll.com/shop/books/the-plantpower-way-italia-signed/ ✩ Support - https://www.patreon.com/richroll Thanks To The Team: Jason Camiolo, Dan Drake, Morgan McRae, Blake Curtis, Desmond Loh * * * * * NEW TO RICH? Hi I'm Rich Roll. I'm a vegan ultra-endurance athlete, author, podcaster, public speaker & wellness evangelist. But mainly I'm a dad of four. If you want to know more, visit my website or check out these two the NY Times articles: http://bit.ly/otillonyt http://bit.ly/vegansglam I LOVE MAIL! SEND IT HERE: 2630 Conejo Spectrum St. Thousand Oaks, CA 91320 #richroll #richrollpodcast