In this conversation in Bakewell Parish Church, John is interviewed by Mo Gawdat, Former Chief Business Officer at Google X, for his 'Slo Mo' podcast 'How to Stay Humble in Spiritual Pursuits and Learn to Love the Silence'. "Anyone who does anything attentively, will find natural meditation. If we attend - really 100% attend to something, we've no attention left for thought and so, ignored, it dies away. Meditation is a way of bypassing the discursive mind." You can listen to the full podcast here - https://www.mogawdat.com/podcast/episode/784b7315/john-butler-how-to-stay-humble-in-spiritual-pursuits-and-learn-to-love-the-silence. Producer: Phil Shankland, InSight New Media Productions Ltd https://insightnewmedia.co.uk Recorded: All Saints Church, Bakewell, May 2022 Title design: Wendy Mayes Design https://www.wendymayes.co.uk Music: Hari, Amo-te by Uma - https://soundcloud.com/umahari Copyright: Spiritual Unfoldment Trust 2025 John's Butler's first audiobook 'Mystic Approaches' is now available on Audible - https://www.audible.co.uk/pd/Mystic-Approaches-Audiobook/B0DQ64PF5P John's latest book 'Mystic Love' is now available here - https://spiritualunfoldment.co.uk/store/Mystic-Love-%E2%80%93-letters-to-Christine-p674982505 Pure & Simple - more conversations with John and Phil: #1 Is sin just ignorance? #2 The Comfort of Job #3 The Causal Realm #4 Why do we suffer? #5 Pure and Simple #6 What's the matter with books? #7 Unreal to Real #8 Reach for the stars You can watch all 8 conversations with John and Phil, 'Pure & Simple', now in the 'To Make Whole Be Whole' members section: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_93Sd1aIoCM&list=PL_TtBqRWu4B-GHijmwCviIQfJ1esbcmhV You can watch 80+ ad-free videos with John in the "Feet on the Ground' supporters section. Join here - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCi0TFuqj6eND-mJRf8i2Tnw/join. Those wanting more detailed accounts of John's life experience - the formative influences, which have taught and made him what he is, will find it in his 9 published books, available through the website: https://spiritualunfoldment.co.uk/store/. Did you know you can now listen to John on Spotify and other audio platforms? Here is his most popular recording 'Common sense guide to meditation' (1m views) - https://ffm.to/commonsenseguidetomeditation. FREE 86pp PDF 'Introducing Spiritual Unfoldment' With tempting extracts describing his life-long spiritual journey - in the hope they will encourage readers to go further, buy his books and read the whole story for themselves, we invite you to join John Butler's email community and receive a free 86-page PDF 'Introducing Spiritual Unfoldment'. Go to http://spiritualunfoldment.co.uk and scroll to the bottom of any page. Those who wish to support the Work of the Spiritual Unfoldment Trust can donate here - https://www.paypal.com/donate/?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=BBAWMHB4JQMKY Find out more about the the Spiritual Unfoldment Trust: https://spiritualunfoldment.co.uk/charitable-trust/ Disclaimer: https://spiritualunfoldment.co.uk/disclaimer Topics Basics of Meditation: John emphasises the simplicity and naturalness of meditation, contrasting it with more structured religious practices. Spiritual Teachings: The interaction between spiritual teachings across different cultures and how they relate to modern meditation practices. Personal Experience: John shares personal anecdotes and views on teaching, wisdom, and the evolution of his own spiritual practices. Historical and Cultural Context: Description of the church and its historical significance, providing a backdrop to the meditation discussions. Philosophy of Life and Meditation: Exploration of deeper philosophical questions about life, the infinite, and the essence of being through the practice of meditation. Keywords Meditation Spirituality Simplicity Historical Philosophical Chapter Headings