A father finds his 13-year-old daughter in the truck of the man charged with SA’ing her — a man out on bond, violating a no-contact order. A 6 mile high speed chase ensues and moments after perfectly executed pit maneuver, Michael Fosler is dead and Aaron Spencer is charged with second-degree murder. Twenty months later, the case is over. No plea. No trial. Dismissed — because the Lonoke County Sheriff’s Office lost the one piece of evidence that may have shown exactly what happened that night: the SD card from Fosler’s own dash cam. Judge Ralph Wilson Jr. called law enforcement’s conduct “so egregious that dismissal of this case is warranted.” Today, Bob and Ali sit down with the attorney who made it happen: Erin Cassinelli. How do you get a murder case dismissed on a motion? What does “bad faith” destruction of evidence actually take to prove? And what does this case say about a system where the same sheriff’s office that arrested Spencer botched the evidence that could have cleared him? Just facts. Balls and strikes. This is Defense Diaries. #AaronSpencer #ErinCassinelli #TrueCrime #DefenseDiaries #KarenRead #CriminalDefense 00:00:00 - Intro & Greetings 00:01:35 - Welcome to Attorneys Erin Cassinelli & Michael Kaiser (Defense Team for Aaron Spencer) 00:03:00 - Introductions & Background: Recap of the Case & Chat Comments 00:04:00 - Why This Case Isn't Vigilante Justice: Self-Defense, Defense of Others & Total Justification 00:09:00 - Changing the Narrative: What Fossler Actually Did 00:10:00 - Tiny Technical Difficulty! (Goodbye Atty. Kaiser) 00:12:30 - Back to the Panel with Atty. Cassinelli: Take Us Back to October 8th, 2024... 00:14:10 - Aaron Doesn't See His Daughter in Her Bed, and Then... 00:18:40 - Demanding More Protection for Victims of Sexual Crimes and Grooming 00:23:00 - Fossler's Trail of Evidence Regarding Other Unidentified Victims 00:25:00 - She Was in the Car with Fossler, He Was Searching for a Weapon -The Confrontation 00:34:00 - Aaron Trying to Keep the Threat Down: Fossler's High Dosage of Medication Kept Him Alive Longer 00:39:00 - Legal Process for the Arrest and Initial Charges 00:42:00 - The State Pushing the Narrative That This Was Premeditated or Vigilante Action 00:45:00 - Common Sense: If the Abuser Is on Bail, You Bet You're Searching for All Info About Him 00:48:00 - Fossler Could've Stopped and Pushed Her Out of the Car, But He Kept Going 00:49:00 - Erin's Rant! (She's Fam) 00:51:35 - Goodbye Bob! Final Thoughts, Thanks & Congratulations for Erin 00:55:00 - The Aftermath: Failure to Investigate Fossler's Character vs. Aaron's Character 01:00:00 - What Happened Right After the Shooting 01:02:00 - Why Did She Go Through with the Gag Order? What Was the Actual Motive? Micromanaging Everything 01:04:00 - Why They Granted the Change of Judge 01:05:00 - Reversible Error: Making the Defense and Defendant Look Bad 01:08:00 - Motion for Recusal of the 1st Judge & Ruling of the 2nd Judge 01:10:00 - "That's How It Is in Lonoke County... and Get Used to It" 01:12:00 - When the Order to Change the Judge Dropped: "HOLY SH*T!!!" 01:17:00 - Let's Go Over the Crime Scene -Overview 01:20:00 - Body Cam & Digital Evidence: Missing SD Cards & Late Evidence Transfers 01:29:00 - Comparisons to the Richard Allen Case 01:31:00 - Turning Off Body Cams: What Are They Hiding & Why? - Special Motion to Exclude Evidence 01:36:00 - The Judge Seeing Law Enforcement Misconduct: A Planted Meth Pipe?! 01:39:00 - The Dismissal & Dropping All Charges WITH PREJUDICE! 01:43:00 - Advocacy for Real Victims: Prosecutors Knowing What's Worth Charging and Proving Beyond a Reasonable Doubt, that's Literally their JOB! 01:47:00 - Major Red Flags in Sexual Crime Prosecutions 01:49:00 - Surprise Visitor Pops In to Say Hi! WOW! 01:50:00 - Aaron's Path to Becoming Sheriff: Somebody Has to Do Something & Your Vote Matters 01:55:00 - What Was Really the State's Case Here? How Were They Planning to Present It? 01:59:00 - TEXTBOOK GROOMING! Disgusting!! 02:00:00 - Erin's Final Thoughts & Conclusions + Super Chats Appreciating Erin 02:07:00 - Final Thoughts & Thanks for All the Gifties!! BYEEEEEE! Thanks for joining for the 2nd time today!