The organization is committed to providing significant public access for hunting and recreation as a core part of its mission.

“We've got an incredible board. We have supporters around the country who believe in in this mission, believe in this idea, care about this landscape, care about the the the wildlife and the human communities, and I get to interact with all of them.”

Landowners often feel entitled to control public land that they do not legally own.

“what I found out now is in their minds, it is their land. They don't have deeded they don't have the deeded deeded rights to it, but but they genuinely do feel.”