Steroid use is integrated into cycles of personal transformation and efforts to improve physical appearance, followed by periods of sobriety.

“the month before last I was dead sober, was working out a ton taking a lot of steroids, doing a big transformation for a video”

He claims that taking steroids during the off-season was an effective way to recover from injuries while avoiding positive test results during the season.

“So, so my argument is like, okay, what were we doing wrong? We were literally recovering our our torn knees, our ACL's and and by the time season starts when we tested, we tested negative. We weren't testing positive for steroids. Otherwise, we would have won national championships.”

Anabolic steroids are not inherently as dangerous as they are often perceived and can be used safely at physiologic levels.

“I honestly believe that anabolic steroids when used at physiologic levels are safer than tylenol yeah absolutely you know are far less toxic and frankly you know far less likely to lead into morbidity”