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Louis C.K.guest85

Gaining massive industry fame is a temporary place to visit, not a permanent or sustainable way to live one's life.

“a mountaintop is a place you visit you don't [ __ ] live there you don't live in a tent sucking oxygen it's actually not fun up there it's a goal but it's not a life”

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