He credits Ronda Rousey and Gina Carano for successfully transitioning women's MMA from a niche interest to a main event spectacle through their charisma and skill.

“Gina Corano made people look at women's fighting differently. She brought charisma, danger, crossover appeal. She was the first woman in combat sports who felt larger than life. Then Ronda Rousey and she kicked the doors off the hinges for women's MMA.”