Effective science education requires engaging students' emotions first because interest and curiosity must be sparked before complex facts can be successfully taught.

“if you want to reach someone's brain, you have to enter through the heart. You can't You can't start here. This is why, you know, if you're trying to convince someone out of like a being a conspiracy theorist or something, someone who believes the Earth is flat, you can't go to them with a list of f”

The modern university experience is detrimental to students because it replaces essential human teacher-student interaction with automated online modules.

“And I think the modern university experience is robbing students of the human teacher interaction. And I think it's very important because I think my educational experience was very very different than what I'm seeing from a a lot of young students.”

The current system for recruiting scientists relies too heavily on chance rather than structured support.

“you know we can't rely on sometimes researchers call this happen stance that we can't really rely on happen stance like that's not a fair system right and so that's part of where my story comes in is is picking out like the pieces of saying um you know these were barriers to someone like me”