In this conversation with Jordan Hall and John Vervaeke we discuss the meaning and implications of "egregores" as described by the recent two articles on the Symbolic World Blog by Daniel Townhead and Kenneth Florence as well as in the book "Meditations on the Tarot" by Valentin Tomberg. The question of egregores is part of our ongoing discussion about higher beings, collective intelligence, distributed cognition and principalities. We also discuss our current world, our language as a secular culture, what a solution to the meaning crisis will look like and artificial intelligence. - The Symbolic World vs Egregores, Part 1 by Daniel Townhead and Kenneth Florence: https://thesymbolicworld.com/articles/the-symbolic-world-vs-egregores-part-1/ - The Symbolic World vs Egregores, Part 2 by Daniel Townhead and Kenneth Florence: https://thesymbolicworld.com/articles/the-symbolic-world-vs-egregores-part-2/ ============================== Timestamps 00:00:02 - Coming up next 00:01:15 - Intro music 00:01:40 - Jordan's terminology 00:03:08 - Background for this discussion 00:04:11 - Where Jordan is coming from 00:05:25 - Where John is coming from 00:06:24 - "Egregore" & bottom-up/top-down 00:08:21 - Again, where Jordan is coming from 00:09:01 - "Headless" beings 00:13:27 - Self-destructive/parasitic structures 00:19:25 - Demons in iconography 00:20:46 - Decomposition at the level of the mob 00:25:26 - The fringe of hyper-beings 00:28:38 - A bureaucracy that's too strong 00:31:58 - The demonic hierarchy 00:37:50 - What is evil? 00:39:22 - Selling your soul 00:42:21 - A virus 00:45:48 - We can see these patterns now 00:49:18 - We’ve lost our language around these beings 00:51:29 - Zombie Christianity 00:54:24 - How long have we been here? 00:58:50 - What can we do? 01:14:26 - Being in relationship with what is real 01:33:56 - Artificial intelligence 01:40:31 - Prayer ============================== - The Symbolic World website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com - Merch: http://www.thesymbolicworld.store - The Language of Creation (Matthieu Pageau): https://www.amazon.com/Language-Creation-Cosmic-Symbolism-Genesis-ebook/dp/B07D738HD8 - Carving workshop: https://jonathanpageau.thinkific.com/courses/st-john-baptist The Symbolic World podcast: - Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0gI8bUwPtT3gkduHqNh6M5 - Apple podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-symbolic-world/id1386867488 More videos from The Symbolic World: - Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/JonathanPageauClips - French Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/JonathanPageaufrançais - Bitchute: https://www.bitchute.com/channel/pageaujonathan/ - Dtube: https://steemit.com/@symbolism Join the conversation: - Unofficial Facebook discussion group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1989208418065298/ - The Symbolic World Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSymbolicWorld/ Support this channel: - Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/support/ - Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos - Subscribestar: https://www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau - Paypal: http://www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Social media links: - Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld - Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson. My website designers, Anomalist Design: https://www.anomalistdesign.com/