Unpacking the Jordan Peterson dialogue with John Vervaeke with Paul VanderKlay. The dialogue, 'A Conversation so Intense It Might as Well Be Psychedelic' is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLg2Q0daphE&t=131s Films referenced in this conversation include: John Vervaeke: Flow States and Wisdom: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jS2AiQEz-E The Evolving Conversation, John Vervaeke & Peter Limberg: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ3c3niLvbI&t=3s After the Meaning Crisis, John Vervaeke: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz6qgfjGMAg&t=206s