It's week 4 of the Tanner Horner trial and Lauren Matthias is here with all of the updates. The defense has now spent weeks trying to explain Tanner Horner—his autism, trauma, mental health, and the life that shaped him—but their own expert made something clear: he knew right from wrong, and the crime itself was horrific. In this episode, we break down the second week of defense testimony in the murder of 7-year-old Athena Strand, from teachers and pastors to ex-girlfriends and forensic psychiatrists, all painting a picture of a man who internalized pain… yet committed an unthinkable act. So the jury is left with the question at the center of this trial—how do these two versions of a person exist at the same time… and does any of it change what justice should look like? Sponsors: Jones Road Beauty: Use code HIDDEN 👉 https://jonesroadbeauty.com to get a free Shimmer Face Oil with your first purchase! #JonesRoadBeauty Beam: BEAM – Get up to 35% off with code TRUECRIME 👉 https://shopbeam.com/TRUECRIME 0:00- intro Monday 1:51- witness 1 (Marie, special education teacher) 7:48- witness 2 (Gary, pastor) 17:29- witness 3 (Reba, High school girlfriend) 27:45- witness 4 (Dr. Fritz, speech language pathologist) Tuesday 41:34- witness five (Michelle, former neighbor) 46:48- witness six (Jay, former friend) 58:23- witness seven (Thorn, former friend) 1:05:28- witness eight (Dr. Ryan, forensic psychiatrist) Wednesday 1:24:46- (Dr. Ryan, cross exam) 2:05:26- witness nine (Elizabeth, former friend) 2:10:37- witness ten (Lee, former coworker) 2:15:36- witness eleven (Jason, former coworker) 2:20:54- witness twelve (Chicken, fellow inmate) 2:26:06- witness thirteen (Dr. Davies, pediatric MD) 2:36:09- witness fourteen (Dr. Yount, family doctor) Thursday 2:41:26- witness fifteen (Dr. Imof, forensic psychologist) 2:47:36- witness sixteen (Dr. Spence, forensic psychiatrist) 2:55:12- witness seventeen (Jackie, Tanner’s grandmother) Become a Hidden gem: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBp03toXz-WZ6gSt7YtSdEg/join Find exclusive episodes on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/hiddentruecrime Lauren Matthias was a television reporter for a decade. She and her husband, Dr. John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, started Hidden True Crime in 2020 with their Season, 'Beyond the Veil,' a psychological deep dive into the doomsday murders of Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow. What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a forensic psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling. Thank you for your support through sponsorships, subscribing, listening, and becoming a Patreon member at https://www.patreon.com/hiddentruecrime Become a channel member and gem: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBp03toXz-WZ6gSt7YtSdEg/join Join for channel emojis: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBp03toXz-WZ6gSt7YtSdEg/join We're a true crime news channel working to ensure that the public gets the most factual information on the latest crimes. This video is a news piece in the public's interest. This video was created with the intent of educating the public. What Experts Found—and What They Didn’t—About Tanner Horner | Athena Strand Trial Two Versions of Tanner Horner: The Defense’s Case Gets Complicated | Athena Strand Trial Autism, Trauma, and the Defense Strategy—Does It Explain Anything? | Athena Strand Trial Athena strand,Athena strand trial,true crime recaps,true crime news,trial watchers,true crime,true crime podcast,hidden true crime,lauren matthias,true crime documentary,Tanner horner,tanner horner grandmother,tanner horner trial,fedex driver kills little girl trial,athena strand update,tanner horner update,tanner horner trial live stream,tanner horner trial recap,athena strand recap,tanner horner audio,tanner horner interrogation full,horner trial