A college degree is not necessary for success if one has already secured significant professional work.

“I physically couldn't go to college anymore um because at the time the school I was at didn't have enough like online options. So, I just I just couldn't and I had already taken a semester off to audition for all these colleges.”

Going backward or making a pivot is not a failure, as it allows individuals to re-navigate their lives.

“going backwards isn't as taboo as we make it out to be. Like we make it seem like if you're not moving forwards, your life's falling apart. It's like, well, no. Sometimes you have to go backwards to to re-navigate and reconfigure.”