Strength is redefined today as the capacity for leaders to be vulnerable and show all sides of themselves rather than projecting a facade of arrogance.

“I think we're still redefining and reframing strength in the world today. I think there are some of us who still see bravado and arrogance and chauvinism as being strong. Mhm. And I think that's shifting, but it's shifting very slowly.”

Vulnerability among leaders creates a safer and more open environment for employees to share their own struggles.

“If I start to show some of that vulnerability at work, if I start to give a little bit of space and more time for that conversation, would that then make it just more open for others and more safe for others to have the conversation?”