This video was commissioned and produced by Science & Wisdom LIVE: https://www.sciwizlive.com, and is part of the Lighthouse Dialogues with Vicki Mackenzie, who interviews 'spiritual lighthouses' to ask about their life experiences and share their wisdom with the general public." See: https://www.sciwizlive.com/lighthouse-dialogues/ YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZrolc6fLbiV637E7dcPB6w "In today's spiritual language, it's become fashionable to talk about the Self - but Jesus didn't. Neither do I. I'd rather take the way of love ... self-abandonment to love, and maybe find self-realisation by another door." John Butler Producer: Phil Shankland, InSight New Media Productions Music: Hari, Amo-te by Uma - https://soundcloud.com/umahari Copyright: Spiritual Unfoldment Trust 2022 You can watch 80+ ad-free videos with John in the "feet on the Ground' supporters section. Join here - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCi0TFuqj6eND-mJRf8i2Tnw/join. Those wanting more detailed accounts of John's life experience - the formative influences, which have taught and made him what he is, will find it in his 8 published books, available through the website: https://spiritualunfoldment.co.uk/store/. Did you know you can now listen to John on Spotify and other audio platforms? Here is his most popular recording 'Common sense guide to meditation' (1m views) - https://ffm.to/commonsenseguidetomeditation. With tempting extracts describing his life-long spiritual journey - in the hope they will encourage readers to go further, buy his books and read the whole story for themselves, we invite you to join John Butler's email community and receive a free 86-page PDF 'Introducing Spiritual Unfoldment'. Go to http://spiritualunfoldment.co.uk and scroll to the bottom of any page. Those who wish to support the Work of the Spiritual Unfoldment Trust can donate here - https://www.paypal.com/donate/?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=BBAWMHB4JQMKY