John Vervaeke and Jonathan Pageau are two of the most fascinating thinkers engaged in the deepest questions of meaning, religion and culture. In this dialogue and Q&A, they cover topics like the future of Christianity, symbology & culture, and the meaning of gnosticism. To join future Q&As, consider becoming a Rebel Wisdom member: https://rebelwisdom.co.uk/plans Jonathan Pageau is an expert on religious symbolism, which he discusses on his channel The Symbolic World: https://www.youtube.com/user/pageaujonathan John Vervaeke is a professor of psychology and cognitive science at Toronto University, and the creator of the hit YouTube series, Awakening From the Meaning Crisis: https://www.youtube.com/user/johnvervaeke