In this episode of The Winston Marshall Show, I sit down with Jonathan Pageau for a conversation on the end of the Enlightenment, AI, Christianity, demons, UFOs, and why the modern world is rediscovering the spiritual. We discuss the collapse of materialism, the return of religion, the meaning of giants, occultism, technology, transhumanism, and why Pageau believes the West is entering a new civilisational era beyond secular rationalism. LIVE EVENT: Is Islam compatible with the West? Get your discounted first release tickets now before they sell out: https://winstonmarshall.eventbrite.co.uk I can’t wait for you to join us in London for one of the most important debates of our time Our show is independently supported by you, consider signing up to our substack to get added benefits like ad-free and extended episodes here: https://www.winstonmarshall.co.uk/