Get a better way to stay informed at https://ground.news/winston and see through biased media. Subscribe through my link for 40% off unlimited access. Theologian and cultural commentator Jonathan Pageau joins The Winston Marshall Show for a profound discussion on meaning, myth, and the crumbling foundations of the post-war consensus. Pageau argues that the secular order built after WWII—rooted in liberalism, materialism, and the rejection of transcendent values—is collapsing under the weight of its own contradictions. As old narratives dissolve, chaos rushes in to fill the void: identity politics, technocracy, and ideological extremism. They explore the spiritual cost of modernity, the dangers of trying to build a society without sacred stories, and why the breakdown of shared mythos is leaving the West vulnerable to civilizational decay. All this—rituals, relativism, revolution, and the desperate search for meaning in a world that has forgotten its soul… ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To see more exclusive content and interviews consider subscribing to my substack here: https://www.winstonmarshall.co.uk/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- FOLLOW ME ON SOCIAL MEDIA: Substack: https://www.winstonmarshall.co.uk/ X: https://twitter.com/mrwinmarshall Insta: https://www.instagram.com/winstonmarshall Linktree: https://linktr.ee/winstonmarshall ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chapters 2:39 Reframing World War II and Its Consensus 43:28 Emerging Narratives and Historical Revisionism 58:21 The Dichotomy of Nationalism and Globalism 1:05:41 The Role of Symbols in Cultural and Political Narratives 1:08:54 Online Phenomenon and Political Parties 1:15:43 Role of Christianity and Identity 1:21:34 Nationalism and Empire vs. Modern Nation-State 1:24:15 Closing Thoughts