This episode was sponsored by -Schwank Grills. Visit https://schwankgrills.com or use code “JP150” now for $150 OFF an American-made, 1500-degree grill + grill cover. In this episode, Mikhaila hosts French Canadian symbolic thinker, YouTuber, editor of the Orthodox Arts Journal, and icon carver Jonathan Pageau, an explorer of how (underlying) symbolic patterns emerge, develop, and then manifest in religion, art, pop culture, etc. Mikhaila and Jonathan discuss finding God, the Protestant church (and the Reformation), human compassion, ways to go to Heaven (and Hell), the Protestant people (or: Purgatory denial), Christianity for mystics, the Bible, and—not least—the story of Purgatory. If you enjoyed this conversation, be sure to subscribe and hit the bell button! ———————————— Find Jonathan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/c/JonathanPageau Twitter https://twitter.com/pageaujonathan Learn more about his carvings http://pageaucarvings.com/index.html https://patreon.com/jonathanpageau and carving classes https://jonathanpageau.thinkific.com/courses/st-john-baptist ———————————— Follow Me On ———————————— All Platforms: https://linktr.ee/mikhailapeterson Facebook: https://facebook.com/mikhailapete​rson Twitter: https://twitter.com/MikhailaAleksis​​ Instagram: https://instagram.com/mikhailapeterson Telegram channel: https://t.me/mikhailapeterson​​ ———————————— Show Notes ———————————— #MikhailaPeterson #Christianity #Symbolism #Church #God